Council Response to Alta Vista PS repairs update

Good evening Mr Carson,

Thank you for the answers you have provided thus far and the communication to our community.

Although its good news that the heating system seems to be operating fine so far, in reference to “no leaks were observed”, the way this is worded makes it sounds like minimal testing was undertaken.   This is disappointing as this an opportunity to carry out preventative measures during peak daytime hours while school is closed.

Can you please clarify based on your update, not all of our questions were answered

Status of Repair:

  • Areas sealed off on Monday around mid day  – is incorrect our information clearly has it that it was near end or after school, and students assisted in clearing out the affected areas

Follow up on Mould testing:

  • Since source of moisture has been corrected and cleaning has been continues – The rooms where Grade 1’s will be are they adequately clean, not just mopping and dusting through out the rest of the building 

Decision Points on Re-opening:

  • is the steam plant fully operational?
    • Is there a report that specifically indicates where pipes were reviewed.  We would expect review of many pipes as possible around the school and or monitoring of pressure gauges around the school.
    • What testing procedures were implemented to check for leaks for the Board to sign off that the heating system is working properly. 
    • No mention was made of fully testing the heating system to its design capacity or full operating range.  Has the heating system been tested to replicate -30 C outside temperature, for example?

It is important that these questions be addressed prior to the decision to open the school so that parents can feel reassured that the environment is safe for students and staff.

Thank you,

Janice Chamberlain and Nancy Solange-Dean

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Alta Vista PS Repairs – OCDSB Update 2019.11.23.

November 23, 2019

Dear Alta Vista Families:

I wanted to share an update on the work underway at the school and respond to some of the questions that have come up.

Status of Repairs

The areas of the building which require remediation were sealed off with plastic on Monday around mid-day.  The work areas are all inside the isolated rooms.  Each area is sealed and under negative air pressure while work is being completed.

The break in the steam pipe has been repaired and the boilers are now being re-pressurized. The repair work appears to have corrected the problem as no new leaks were observed as the system regained operating pressure last night (Friday November 22nd).  Later today, repairs will begin to the floor area which was excavated to access the broken pipe. In addition, work is underway to replace affected drywall, and ceiling tiles.  The replacement of drywall and ceiling tiles will continue in the isolated areas area after the school re-opens.  While work continues in the isolated areas, the custodial staff have been mopping and dusting walls, floors and desks throughout the rest of the building

Follow up on Mould Testing

Additional testing for mould was done on Thursday and the consultant has provided some more information which is attached. The consultant’s report indicates that test readings have dropped significantly.  Some parents have asked questions about how to read the mould test results and what the established acceptable limits are.  I have been advised that acceptable levels in mould testing results are based on comparative analysis (with outdoor air, or with indoor areas that are considered to be clean); there is no formally established acceptable limit.  The consultant has reported that after a second round of testing the results appear acceptable.   There have also been questions about why every room was not tested; mould testing is done as a sampling.  The OCDSB retains independent third party professionals to advise on sampling, testing and results.    Since the source of moisture has been corrected and cleaning has been continuous over the last several days, the possibility for continued mold growth and propagation throughout the building has been significantly reduced and therefore additional testing is not recommended.

Approximately 10 air scrubbers as well as dehumidifiers have been in the school over the past week.  Air scrubbers are provided to eliminate any unwanted particulates and moisture from the air. The scrubbers have been moved to different locations over the course of the week.  The air scrubbers will remain in place until Monday.  We will review the requirement to keep them at the end of the day on Monday.

Visit by Ottawa Public Health

On Friday, Ottawa Public Health visited the school.  They did not issue a report or make any recommendations, but did provide the following statement to be shared with the community:

Ottawa Public Health (OPH)  has visited the school and reviewed the clean-up and remediation plan being implemented by the OCDSB at Alta Vista Public School following a heating system steam leak.  OPH is satisfied with the response to this incident.  The impacted area has been closed off from the remaining school and daycare areas, and will remain so until the issues with asbestos and moisture have been addressed. This area is being kept under negative air pressure to ensure no contaminants impact other areas of the school.  

 OPH also noted that when there is exposure to mouldy environments there may be health effects, or none at all, and that persons concerned about any new or worsening symptoms should see a health professional so that all potential causes (including viral, bacterial, allergic, other) can be considered.

Renovation Work when there is Asbestos

Asbestos is present in a number of building products.   When left intact and undisturbed, asbestos containing materials do not pose a health risk. Asbestos containing material is not generally considered to be harmful unless it is releasing dust or fibers into the air where they can be inhaled or ingested.  Asbestos flooring, countertops, joint compound and ceiling tiles that are undamaged and in good condition are not. Asbestos-containing ceiling tiles, floor tiles, undamaged laboratory cabinet tops, shingles, fire doors, siding shingles, etc. will not release asbestos fibers unless they are disturbed or damaged in some way or have deteriorated significantly.

The risk of exposure to asbestos comes in the repair, removal and replacement of asbestos containing materials. When asbestos abatement work needs to be conducted, the OCDSB follows the legislated guidelines. The first steps in that process include sectioning off any areas of concern and posting notice that asbestos abatement work will be necessary.  The attached asbestos information sheet provides information about practices at the OCDSB.  Some parents have inquired as to why this information is presented in the context of Occupational Health and Safety. The reason for this is that the legislative requirements for asbestos and air quality in Ontario buildings and building remediation work are established as part of the Occupational Health and Safety legislation.

Decision Points on Reopening

In terms of re-opening, the following considerations will be made:

  • Have the repairs to the broken pipe been completed?
  • Is the steam plant fully operational?
  • Is the humidity level consistent with regular operations?
  • Do mould testing results show acceptable levels in the school?
  • Is the remaining repair work in an area that is appropriately sectioned off and subject to negative air pressure?
  • Will air scrubbers be required onsite?
  • Is there a need for ongoing testing?

We will communicate with families by 7 pm tomorrow.  Thank you for your ongoing support as we work through these issues.

Guido Ronci

Principal

Mould Sampling Report – Alta VistaR.pdf

OCDSB Asbestos Fact Sheet Public (1).pdf


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Council Review of Test results and Concerns for re-opening school

COUNCIL 2 of 2 of response to Wednesday test results

Nov. 23 10:35 am

Good morning Mr Carson,

Thank you for your response. We have forwarded it to the parent group which is working to put together our questions/concerns. While we will have further questions, I am forwarding (below) this information to you as we would like responses to these questions/concerns at this time.

Thank you for your continued communications to help inform the parents of our community.

Janice Chamberlain & Nancy Solange-Dean

Please advise Council of the heating system pressure testing program that will be undertaken over this weekend and the Code that it will follow for review prior to stating or reopening the school.

Please confirm asap that air and mould testing will continue when reopening the school for a certain timeframe.

Please advise prior to reopening the school of further results of air testing after taking down barriers and of legionnaires testing in the heating water for review prior to reopening the school.

Please confirm the school is safe to reopen and why.

The report says the area was “sealed off Monday morning”. We would like to know the exact time each room was sealed off Monday. We know that the intermediate kids were in the music room during last block Monday because they were the ones who emptied it. What time was the bathroom sealed off?

We are referred to “mold in the workplace” but we aren’t just talking about a workplace, we are talking about an area that was directly occupied by 5&6yr olds over an extended period. Has the board accessed information on the health impact of kids this age?

The report states that there were 2 out of 3 high tests results that came back were in the sealed area but that area was only tested once.

The teacher workspace which adjoins the staffroom to the music hall is now closed off but wasn’t sealed last week. That space did not get tested nor did the hallway directly outside of the music room or the classroom right next to the music room. -why not? There were also no air scrubbers in the classroom that abuts the music room yesterday afternoon. There was one in the hallway but all classroom doors were closed.

One recommendation from Public Health is that things like blinds be washed down. What is being washed down and what rooms are covered in the wash down area? Would like to see the report of recommendations from Ottawa Public Health

We were told Public Health said the board shouldn’t have even done testing…is that because they were told the main area of concern was sealed off immediately Monday morning?! – again…it wasn’t! I would like to ask that Public Health be at the Wednesday night meeting

Can someone who knows more than I do please let me know what items tested are of significant concern to health? Ie: I don’t know what asbestos is on this lab report, same goes for toxic black mold – and don’t want to spend my day looking all of these up.

Where did they capture samples for the second air quality test?

Are they also running the air quality tests that take longer for results? What are the benefits/limits of the two kinds of testing?

Why hasn’t he board reached out to parents to learn about/collect information on the health impact of this environmental event?

What are the spore thresholds that are considered safe for the average population for the spores that were collected?

I understand that once sealed off, any asbestos would be contained. Here is my understanding of events and concern….the steam pipe broke over the weekend, the boiling steam traveled through the trench under the floor as far as the girls bathroom where there was significant dampness and high heat resulted. This bathroom has no door/the door is often propped open – I think?! My understanding is that the ceiling tiles are an asbestos concern due to the glue that binds them. So presumably over the weekend there was a water/damage/dripping/evaporation cycle. Would this be enough to cause asbestos to become airborne? I’m thinking location of that bathroom & the change of air pressure and air flow in the building caused by the courtyard doors opening and kids rushing in Monday morning would cause a significant disturbance to the air in that location potentially moving particles out of the areas that were later sealed off.

Did any Ceiling tiles break of fall prior to the rooms

OCDSB Alta Vista PS repairs -Update 2019.11.23

Nov. 23rd 3:17 pm

Update today

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Nov. 22nd: Test results and Council request for information

Friday Nov. 22nd  UPDATE on repairs and Testing

OCDSB sent Update: AVPS testing and repairs

COUNCIL Response 1 of 2 re: tests 

Dear Mr. Carson,

We have reviewed the test results and also went in to visit the school and talk to Guido and Richie.

We are concerned about what still needs to be done before the decision to re-open the school is made.

  1. Re: leak and possible other leaks in the system
    1. The heating system has been turned off and scheduled to be turned on tomorrow.  We recommend that consideration be given to pressure tests be completed on the heating system within small sections first, to larger and eventually the whole school to confirm that there are no more leaks or where other leaks are.
    2. Also to testing of legionnaires
  1. Air qualityTesting
    1. We understand another spore test was carried out today
    2. We see nothing related indoor air testing or testing of asbestos in the air.  Also consider testing the air outside the building too.

We have more questions and input but  wanted to get this to you ASAP as we know that tomorrow you will be turning heating system back on.

Thanks for this and will provide more input tomorrow

Nancy and Janice

OCDSB :Superintendent Mike Carson:

Thanks for your response. There’ll be a more formal communication later today but I can provide some comments now.

You are correct that we retested areas based on the the higher levels of spores noted in some areas. Those new tests have come back at more normal levels. We expect that report will be available to us later today.

The boilers are being pressurized and no leaks observed..

Asbestos testing is carried out as remediation of the areas carried out and before general access is allowed back to the restricted areas.

I’m not the expert and I’ll double check in your comment about legionnaires, but it is my understanding that the risk of that bacteria is related to closed systems with chiller units. That’s not the case at Alta Vista.

Thanks again for your questions and we will likely have more to say depending on today’s progress

 

 

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